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--- venue [2025/04/11 06:42] – nightmarelyra
+++ venue [2025/04/15 03:44] (current) – nightmarelyra
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 ====== ☆ VENUE - BASICS ======
-| **Basics** | [[venue_camera|Camera]] | Lights | Post-Processing |
+| **Basics** | [[venue_camera|Camera]] | [[venue_lights|Lights]] | [[venue_post_proc|Post-Processing]] |
  :!: **WORK IN PROGRESS** :!:
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-==== ☆ Rock Band 3 Style ====
+==== ☆ ROCK BAND 3 STYLE ====
-This is primarily done via Reaper, using text events and some MIDI notes
+This is primarily done via Reaper, using text events and some MIDI notes. The guides on the wiki will refer to this method primarily.
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-==== ☆ Rock Band 2 Style ====
+==== ☆ ROCK BAND 2 STYLE ====
 :!: Add info here on how to do this and what program to use :!:
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-==== ☆ The Basics ====
+==== ☆ LAYOUT ====
+ :!: Will add pictures :!:
+  * **Singalong Notes** - Place these when you want other characters than the vocalist to also use lipsync animation. Be aware that if you have Harmonies authored, by default Guitar will always be HARM2, Bass will be HARM3 (or HARM1 if no HARM3 is charted), and Drums will be HARM1. Keys will take over for either Guitar or Bass's lipsync.
+  * **Spotlights** - These creates a spotlight at the desired character for the duration of the MIDI note. The spotlight takes a short moment to activate fully, so we recommend having them start a 16th triplet early to account for this.
+  * **Text Events** - Where you put most of the authoring for the venue.
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+==== ☆ THE BASICS ====
 Creating the venue is essentially like being a music video director and stage show programmer at the same time, with your goal being to make something that fits the song and makes for a better experience for players and spectators alike.
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   * **Camera cut density** - A common trick in film making is to use quick changes in camera cuts for intense parts, and long drawn out shots for more mellow parts. This can be used to great effect to help match the mood of the song.
   * **Camera cut variety** - Try and focus a little bit on everyone in the band across the song. Try mixing up which type of shots you use during repeating parts to make it feel more dynamic.
   * **Map out big camera moments first** - Find out which moments of the song needs some big dynamic camera work, and then add filler shots between those to make the process easier.
   * **Play around with lights and post-processing** - You can create some truly artistic and fantastic effects and colors using these. Just be careful about stuff like strobing lights and the red/blue post-proc filter, as to not give any photosensitive players a seizure.
   * **Take inspiration from official music videos and live recordings** - Sometimes it can look real nice to try and recreate memorable visuals from real life performances of the song. Even if you can't recreate something 1:1, having an approximation of it can still serve as a fun reference and a good way to create the bedrock for your venue.
-Further down we will go into more detail about what each camera, light and post-proc event looks like in-game.
+We will go into more detail about what each [[venue_camera|camera]], [[venue_lights|light]] and [[venue_post_proc|post-proc]] event looks like in-game on their own respective pages.
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-==== ☆ Layout ====
+==== ☆ SINGALONG NOTES ====
- :!: Will add pictures :!:
+FIXME Add pictures FIXME
-  * **Singalong Notes** - Place these when you want other characters than the vocalist to also use lipsync animation. Be aware that if you have Harmonies authored, by default Guitar will always be HARM2, Bass will be HARM3 (or HARM1 if no HARM3 is charted), and Drums will be HARM1. Keys will take over for either Guitar or Bass's lipsync.
-  * **Spotlights** - These creates a spotlight at the desired character for the duration of the MIDI note. The spotlight takes a short moment to activate fully, so we recommend having them start a 16th triplet early to account for this.
+These MIDI notes will tell characters other than the lead vocalist to activate lipsync animations for the duration of them. By default everyone but the lead vocalist will instead do unrelated face animations while playing, hence why you need to specify this to the game.
-  * **Text Events** - Where you put most of the authoring for the venue.
+There are three different MIDI notes for singalongs; guitarist, bassist and drummer. These do not decide who sings what however, it only activates their animations.
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-==== ☆ Camera ====
+=== Who sings what - Number of Harmonies ===
-Camera events picks which camera shots to use in-game. Each event contains a "pool" of multiple shots within the same category, meaning your venue will not look 100% identical each time you play, but it will always follow the cues you have decided.
-If your song has Guitar, Bass and Keys charted, some shots might not show up in-game depending on which instruments are picked in gameplay (for example no Keys shots if only Guitar and Bass is picked). As such, you'll want to stack shots on top of each other in these cases, so the game will use a different shot if the priority camera shot is not able to be used. If no backup shot is authored, the game will instead use a random shot.
+Depending on if you have just solo vocals, two-part harmonies or three-part harmonies, it changes who lipsyncs what part:
-**The priority is usually as follows:**
+  * **Solo vocals** - Everyone lipsyncs the same part
-  - Keys
+  * **Two-Part Harmonies** - Guitarist lipsyncs HARM2, everyone else lipsyncs HARM1
-  - Guitar
+  * **Three-Part Harmonies** - Guitarist lipsyncs HARM2, Bassist lipsyncs HARM3, Vocalist Drummer lipsyncs HARM1
-  - Bass
-  - Vocals/Drums
-  - All
-So for example, if you have a Keys and Bass shot on top of each other, the Keys shot will always play if a keyboardist is on stage, and the Bass shot will only play if no keyboardist is present. We recommend first authoring camera cuts the way you'd want them optimally, then go back and add backup shots where needed. However, closeup shots and directed cuts will usually have higher priority than non-closeup or non-directed shots, so keep that in mind when stacking.
+Keep these in mind when authoring your venue. [[https://github.com/trojannemo/Nautilus|You can also change this by editing the DTA, using the external MiloMod software bundled with ConTools.]]
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-=== Camera Shots - Normal ===
+=== Who sings what - Band Lineup ===
-This is the list of normal camera cuts:
+You might have noticed we haven't mentioned Keys in all this, and well... this is where stuff gets complicated. Depending on your band lineup in-game, either Bass or Guitar singalong markers gets assigned to Keys instead:
-  * **[coop_all_behind]** --- A shot from the back of the venue, looking over the band and the audience.
+  * Guitar and Keys - Keys lipsyncs Bass singalong
-  * **[coop_all_far]** --- A shot from the audience, looking at the band from afar.
+  * Bass and Keys - Keys lipsyncs Guitar singalong
-  * **[coop_all_near]** --- A shot from the audience, looking at the band near the front of the stage.
-  * **[coop_front_behind]** --- Shows the band, minus the drummer, perform together from the back. Good for sing-alongs.
-  * **[coop_front_near]** --- Shows the band, minus the drummer, perform together from the front. Good for sing-alongs.
-  * **[coop_d_behind]** --- Shows the drummer for behind, often focusing on their drumset.
-  * **[coop_d_near]** --- Shows the drummer from the front, showing their face and drumset.
-  * **[coop_v_behind]** --- Shows the vocalist from behind. Good for filler shots and for audience interactions.
-  * **[coop_v_near]** --- Shows the vocalist from the front. Probably the most commonly used camera shot.
-  * **[coop_b_behind]** --- Shows the bassist from behind.
-  * **[coop_b_near]** --- Shows the bassist from the front.
-  * **[coop_g_behind]** --- Shows the guitarist from behind.
-  * **[coop_g_near]** --- Shows the guitarist from the front.
-  * **[coop_k_behind]** --- Shows the keyboardist from behind.
-  * **[coop_k_near]** --- Shows the keyboardist from the front.
-  * **[coop_d_closeup_hand]** --- Focuses on the drummer's hands, with the camera pointed towards the snare drum.
+Be sure to author the camera cuts in the venue to account for this, and keep things like stacking priorities in mind; Keys shots will always have priority over Guitar and Bass shots, for example.
-  * **[coop_d_closeup_head]** --- Focuses on the drummer's head, as well as the toms and cymbals of the drum set.
-  * **[coop_v_closeup]** --- Focuses on the singer's face. Good for parts with memorable or important lyrics in the song.
-  * **[coop_b_closeup_hand]** --- Focuses on the bassist's hands. Good for bass fills and such.
-  * **[coop_b_closeup_head]** --- Focuses on the bassist's head. Good for singalongs and such.
-  * **[coop_g_closeup_hand]** --- Focuses on the guitarist's hands. Good for guitar leads and such.
-  * **[coop_g_closeup_head]** --- Focuses on the guitarist's head. Good for singalongs and such.
-  * **[coop_k_closeup_hand]** --- Focuses on the keyboardist's hand hands. Good for keys leads and such.
-  * **[coop_k_closeup_head]** --- Focuses on the keyboardist's head. Good for singalongs and such.
-  * **[coop_dv_near]** --- Shows the vocalist sing next to the drummer.
+This can be an absolute nightmare to deal with for songs with multiple lead vocalists, such as a song with several rappers having their own verses. In those cases, we recommend building a dummy file with just solo vocals or all parts on every harmony, then extracting the milo animation file using ConTools and using that instead, with both Guitar and Bass lipsync markers active. Use creative camera cuts to hide that both members are lipsyncing.
-  * **[coop_bd_near]** --- Shows the bassist play near the drummer.
-  * **[coop_dg_near]** --- Shows the guitarist play near the drummer.
-  * **[coop_bv_behind]** --- Shows the bassist and vocalist near each other, from the back. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_bv_near]** --- Shows the bassist and vocalist near each other, from the front. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_gv_behind]** --- Shows the guitarist and vocalist near each other, from the back. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_gv_near]** --- Shows the guitarist and vocalist near each other, from the front. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_kv_behind]** --- Shows the keyboardist and vocalist near each other, from the back. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_kv_near]** --- Shows the keyboardist and vocalist near each other, from the front. Good for singalongs.
-  * **[coop_bg_behind]** --- Shows the bassist and guitarist play together, from the back.
-  * **[coop_bg_near]** --- Shows the bassist and guitarist play together, from the front.
-  * **[coop_bk_behind]** --- Shows the bassist and keyboardist play together, from the back.
-  * **[coop_bk_near]** --- Shows the bassist and keyboardist play together, from the front.
-  * **[coop_gk_behind]** --- Shows the guitarist and keyboardist play together, from the back.
-  * **[coop_gk_near]** --- Shows the guitarist and keyboardist play together, from the front.
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-=== Camera Shots - Directed ===
+==== ☆ PYROTECHNICS ====
-These shots uses special pre-made animations along with the camera cuts, and works a little bit differently than normal shots. These special animations sometimes starts a bit before the camera event, with the placement of the event deciding where the biggest oomph in the animation will take place (for example someone running and jumping; the jump will happen on the event itself while the running will occur beforehand).
+You can add pyrotechnics to your stage show using one of two text events:
-If authored with the Rock Band 3 method in Reaper, these cuts will also eat up the next camera cut after them, before then stopping on the camera cut after that. As such, we recommend placing a generic camera cut a 128th before the next normal camera cut after the directed cut to make sure it stops where its supposed to.
+  * **[bonusfx]** - Makes the pyro go off
+  * **[bonusfx_optional]** - Only makes the pyro go off if you're in the green on your performance meter
-Its also worth noting that some of the animations in the animation pool of each directed cut will only show up for certain genre animations. For example, [directed_guitar_cam_pt] might look completely different between a Metal song and a Punk song. The character's gender also affect which animations might show up. In general its not something you have to worry too much about, but it's good to keep in mind if you have specific directed shots in mind for your venue.
+Adding pyro can add a nice, dramatic flair to your venue, especially in Rock and Metal songs. Put them at the start of choruses, breakdowns, solos and wherever you want to make it pop. The pyro also goes off automatically at the end of a Big Rock Ending if you hit the final note, wether or not you have an event for it in the venue.
-This is the list of directed camera cuts:
+Pyro looks different between different stages, for example having firework sprinklers on smaller stages or huge fireballs on bigger ones.
-  * **[directed_all]** --- Have everyone in the band do a big jump or gesture. Great for start of choruses and such.
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-  * **[directed_all_cam]** --- Have the front part of the band dance together. Great for singalongs and such.
-  * **[directed_all_yeah]** --- Pre-roll animation of the vocalist crouching down, then pointing their finger up to the sky while the band jams out. Great for big crescendos and such.
-  * **[directed_all_lt]** --- Makes everyone jump around the stage. Be aware this one only shows up in arenas, and looks like a normal all_near shot otherwise.
-  * **[directed_bre]** --- Makes everybody go bananas, breaking and thrashing stuff. Great for The Who-style BREs and such.
-  * **[directed_brej]** --- A long pre-roll animation following a big jump. Great for the final note of a BRE, or the beginning of a huge Deathcore breakdown, for example.
-  * **[directed_crowd]** --- Shows a close-up of the crowd. Great for crowd interactions, crowd singalongs and as a general shot. Might be replaced by a all_near shot in smaller venues.
+==== ☆ AUTOGENERATED VENUES ====
-  * **[directed_drums]** --- Makes the drummer do a big hit or gesture. This one is prone to desync, however, so use with caution.
+Harmonix built a system that allows the game to automatically generate a venue for you, if no authored venue is found in your MIDI when building. HOWEVER:
-  * **[directed_drums_pnt]** --- Makes the drummer point at the camera. Great for singalongs, big hits and other "wow" moments.
-  * **[directed_drums_np]** --- :!: add detailed description :!:
-  * **[directed_drums_lt]** --- Shows the camera circle around or focus on the drummer's playing. Great for drum solos and huge drum fills.
-  * **[directed_drums_kd]** --- Shows a close-up of the drummer's foot as they're playing. Good for fast double-bass parts, stomping build-ups and song lyrics about feet.
-  * **[directed_vocals]** --- Have the vocalist point at or kick the camera. Great for moments where they address or threaten someone in the lyrics, or other "in your face" moments.
+{{ ::wiki_-_autogen_venue.jpg?600 |}}
-  * **[directed_vocals_np]** --- Have the vocalist jump and such. Good for parts in a song where some acrobatics looks nice.
-  * **[directed_vocals_cls]** --- Have the vocalist emote right into the mic, often with a closeup camera. Great for high notes, screams and other vocal high-points.
-  * **[directed_vocals_cam_pr]** --- Have the vocalist perform a long pre-roll animation with an additional animation on the placement of the event, such as running up to grab the mic stand.
-  * **[directed_vocals_cam_pt]** --- Have the vocalist perform a long post-roll animation after the placement of the event, such as holding the mic to the audience or strutting on stage.
-  * **[directed_stagedive]** --- Have the vocalist jump into the crowd. For best effect, use during instrumental parts and make it so you don't see the vocalist again for about 30 seconds or so.
-  * **[directed_crowdsurf]** --- Shows the vocalist being carried away by the crowd.
-  * **[directed_bass]** --- Have the bassist kick the camera and such.
+Using autogenerated camera cuts or lights as //a base to work off of// is fine in moderation, but the wacky results you get from full autogen has that AI-generated stench all over it.
-  * **[directed_crowd_b]** --- Have the bassist high-five and fist bump with audience members. Good for singalongs, especially if the bassist isn't playing at the time. Sometimes has a very long pre-roll, so use carefully.
-  * **[directed_bass_np]** --- Have the bassist jump and such.
-  * **[directed_bass_cam]** --- Have the bassist pose to the camera. Good for bass solos, singalongs and the likes.
-  * **[directed_bass_cls]** --- Shows a closeup of the bass neck, focusing on their playing. Great for bass solos, bass licks, breakdowns and any sort of bass-centric parts.
-  * **[directed_guitar]** --- Have the guitarist hit the camera and such.
-  * **[directed_crowd_g]** --- Have the guitarist high-five and fist bump with audience members. Good for singalongs, especially if the guitarist isn't playing at the time.
-  * **[directed_guitar_np]** --- Have the guitarist jump and such.
-  * **[directed_guitar_cls]** --- Shows a closeup of the guitar neck, focusing on their playing. Great for guitar solos, guitar licks, breakdowns and any sort of guitar-centric parts.
-  * **[directed_guitar_cam_pr]** --- Shows the guitarist doing a long pre-roll animation followed by another one where the event is placed, such as running across the stage and sliding on their knees towards the camera.
-  * **[directed_guitar_cam_pt]** --- Shows the guitarist do an animation with a long post-roll, such as jamming out on the guitar after the event hits.
-  * **[directed_keys]** --- Have the keyboardist smash the keyboard after a jump and such.
-  * **[directed_keys_cam]** --- Have the keyboardist slide their hand over the keys or showing off.
-  * **[directed_keys_np]** --- :!: add detailed description :!:
-  * **[directed_duo_drums]** --- Shows a closeup of the drummer's face as they nod along to the song. Intended for singalongs.
+You can select which vague theme for it to use for this in Magma. For the love of all gods and deities there is, //NEVER EVER// use the "Aggressive Metal" theme, its pure eye strain.
-  * **[directed_duo_guitar]** --- Shows the vocalist singing with or holding the mic out for the guitarist. Intended for singalongs.
-  * **[directed_duo_bass]** --- Shows the vocalist singing with or holding the mic out for the bassist. Intended for singalongs.
-  * **[directed_duo_kv]** --- Shows the vocalist singing with or holding the mic out for the keyboardist. Intended for singalongs.
-  * **[directed_duo_gb]** --- Shows the guitarist and bassist play near each other. Good for harmonizing parts, singalongs and any other instrumental-focused part of the song.
+Even a minimal, low effort custom venue is miles better than anything that can be auto-generated.
-  * **[directed_duo_kb]** --- Shows the keyboardist and bassist play near each other. Good for harmonizing parts, singalongs and any other instrumental-focused part of the song.
-  * **[directed_duo_kg]** --- Shows the keyboardist and guitarist play near each other. Good for harmonizing parts, singalongs and any other instrumental-focused part of the song.
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